Trouble Shooting Post for Beta Reading

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Trouble Shooting Post for Beta Reading

The other thread was getting a bit on the long side so any unresolved or new issues you find please comment on here.

thanks,

the Deposed King

52 comments

  1. Vamen - October 10, 2013 9:12 pm

    It looks like the missing lines issue should get fixed in the next couple of hours. If there are hiccups during that time, that’s probably the reason.

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  2. Jovi Won Kenobi - October 11, 2013 5:13 am

    Good. Tried commenting but after the first time putting a comment in using the drop box. The drop box never showed up again. Will try again. Tomorrow.

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  3. Vamen - October 11, 2013 5:33 am

    Ok, part five is up now as well. This book is pretty freakin’ huge, with the rough draft coming in at ~167k words. I’m guessing we’ll end up a skosh bigger than that, all told. I’m guessing we’ll edit out the first Akantha scene – it seems a bit too much plot info that we can more easily introduce in the Ashes for Ashes Akantha novel(la?) when Josh writes it. But we’ll add at least one more chapter with Steiner and Heirophant, as well as a sneak peak at the next book which should be a few thousand words. So a ~170k target looks like where we’re headed.

    This isn’t a great place to discuss plot elements, so I’ll try to figure out if I can get a behind-the-curtain forum up sometime soon at the site, so we can get your feedback on overall impressions.

    Again, thanks to everyone who’s persevered here. The new website is going to be GREAT for everyone, authors and readers alike, and I really needed (still need!) held ironing out the kinks.

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  4. dcl - October 11, 2013 8:12 am

    I have seen that on parts 2-4 that the pages aren’t cutoff anymore. I still can’t annotate fixes on them (on the pop up when you highlight) since I hit the tag button on Part 1.

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  5. Emil - October 11, 2013 9:00 am

    Applied for part 5.

    N.1 euro fan

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  6. Johntae - October 11, 2013 9:16 am

    Okay, approvals for part 5 needed!

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  7. dcl - October 11, 2013 10:47 am

    part 5 awaiting approval

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  8. Alves - October 11, 2013 11:10 am

    I am also having the same problem with the no showing of the drop box.

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  9. Ulrich - October 11, 2013 4:01 pm

    Ok, reads through one to four in a quick read. Were seeing some small mistakes but not much there in the way of mistyping. I think there is the one or other point to be discussed but at least i don’t have the drop over from page to page any longer so a normal reading pattern can be found.

    On the case of a internal blog to discuss matters, yes that would be very good. Have send in for part 5 too.

    Ulrich

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  10. Ulrich - October 12, 2013 12:03 am

    OK, as said I read part one to four and as I don’t know yet how to write you some long comments I will send a *word doc.* with my generell points over the weekend with explainations thereon.

    Without a discussion board running I am not sure how to proceed otherwise. When I am going for a second read I will than try to highlight the direct points through the tool.

    Anyway I have one generell point I think to be discussed which could be done here. I am seeing lots of loose ends and IMO the best way to handle this would be to expend the book for real and than break it into two books been put up for sale on more or less the same time, but than that would also mean you could only pull it out later and there is, of course, everytime the point of income to be discussed.

    I hope you are doing ok on that side so far.

    Most is in the surrounding areas but also some points directly in the area of the Admiral so I easly see there some more words to come out and than the break down into two would be a good way to go and if you think one would be a little small than throw in the one or other short story – similar to the SPALDING one on the blog.

    That than would get you easily to two full fledged books coming out on very short notice and with a short story – more or less ready to go, you easily can push up the numbers by 10 to 20 thousand more.

    Ulrich

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  11. Ulrich - October 12, 2013 12:05 am

    Ah BTW – alternativ you can rise the prise for the book if it gets real long.

    Ulrich

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  12. kelly davis - October 12, 2013 11:21 am

    still not getting a drop box to put in edits… nothing happens after clicking the tag button.

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  13. dcl - October 12, 2013 1:48 pm

    I am highlighting text and hitting the tag on the upper left hand corner of the section I do not know if it is doing anything but there it is. Also can you set up a way for us to send messages to you without using the apply for beta button. Lastly, timeline and time frame reference maybe at beginning of the chapters so we can see the overall time it takes to do something? When I read 2 years it kinda didn’t seem that long because we have no overall reference like in Star Trek stardate blah blah blah, local calender, or Confederated mean time or whatever you want to call it.

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  14. kelly davis - October 12, 2013 5:12 pm

    oddly the tag feature worked out of the blue in two and has not worked since in 3 or 4. put in an app for 5.

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  15. Sandra - October 12, 2013 10:02 pm

    I was able to use the tag button feature the other day, but I an not able to do so today. I hope you don’t mind, I have pasted the info I would have included in the tag feature below.

    I have typed the missing or corrected words/spellings in ()
    Book 3
    Page 2
    Paragraph 3

    “I think I’d rather decline a Captain’s Mast in preference (of) an Administrative
    Review back at headquarters,” Brence, said suppressing the urge to gulp, “we can
    let them decide which of us needs an official reprimand placed in his file.”

    Possibly missing word “of” in the first sentence.

    Page 2
    Paragraph 6

    “By the space gods, neither of those men (are) here now are they,” the Captain said,
    straightening his back and sitting down in is chair. “Besides even if your Admiral
    was here right now, I’m the Captain of this ship,” he continued coldly, “and in
    cold space, I’m the master of this ship, under Murphy and after the Space Gods.”

    Possibly missing word “ are” in the first sentence.

    Page 13
    Paragraph 7

    Maybe it was time to start laying the foundations of something a little more
    ambitious. Rubbing his hands together with glee at the thought of what they were
    going to be able to get done with (a) pair of up-to-date factories and a full service
    ship yard, fed by a robotic mining operation…just as soon as his recruiting drive
    starting funneling the manpower to the Gambit Yards, Spalding cackled to himself as
    entirely new system designs seemed to dance in his head.

    Possibly missing word (a)

    Page 14
    Last paragraph

    “Yes,” the Minority Owner said with angry sarcasm, throwing his hands in the air
    for dramatic emphasis, “igniting a series of nukes on the back end of your ship and
    exploding them to produce propulsion is old technology. In fact, it’s so old that
    no one in their right (mind) would even consider using it!”

    Possibly missing word “mind”.

    Page 23
    Paragraph 6

    “Trillium is quite valuable,” I said, thinking out loud. If I knew my Uncle,
    then his failure to shut down the mining operation had been because he wanted (it)
    operational.

    Possibly missing word “it”.

    Page 27
    Paragraph 3

    “Which also,” I said sharply, raising my voice to deliberately talk over him,
    “completely leaves out the possibility that the Bug Harvesters will head straight
    toward the largest source of biomass in the system – a system that I’ve sworn to
    protect. Now what kind of Protector would I be if I stood aside and trusted these
    pirates to protect the system? Furthermore, what if due to some form of concerted
    resistance on the surface, Jean Luc decides to make an example of a couple city
    states – Messene, or Argos, for instance – and allows several Harvesters (to) land
    and start converting people and vegetation into bio-mass?”

    Possibly missing word “to”.

    Page 29
    Second paragraph from the bottom

    “We have to keep this Fleet in line, focused, and on task. I trust our Clover’s
    crew, but when it comes to dealing the Easy Haveners I need you in my corner, fully
    focused and ready to help push this boulder all the way up t(h)e hill,” I said,
    feeling my eyes burn with emotion.

    The letter “h” missing from the word “the”.

    Page 36
    First Paragraph

    liberties for the duration of their military service, and perhaps even beyond if
    they happen (to) learn any military secrets during the course of their newfound duties.
    Young lady,” he said as he leaned down conspiratorially, “if you can get those
    types to do that, what couldn’t you do in the political arena? Our world is
    desperate for change it can believe in, and – ”

    Possibly missing the word “to”.

    Page 37
    Paragraph 4

    Steiner’s gait broke and she had to stutter-step to keep from stumbling. “Did you
    just make a joke?” she gaped at him. The gunnery rating shrugged at her, and his (face was)
    was face the usual Tracto-an, enigmatic, faintly superior look she was used to,
    “you did make a joke, and for the first time, too! This calls for a celebration –
    fizz-waters on me when we get back to the ship,” she grinned.

    Words out of order: Should be “face was” instead of was face.

    Page 41
    Next to last paragraph

    My heart rate skyrocketed and I had to suppress start of surprise. “You snuck up
    on me,” I replied as mildly as I could, when the heat slipped back down from my
    throat and settled back inside my chest.

    (The first sentence of this paragraph appears to be missing a word or two between the words “suppress start”).

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  16. Archit - October 13, 2013 9:57 am

    I have requested for approval for 5th part

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  17. Vamen - October 13, 2013 6:23 pm

    Will approve everyone this morning (in the next hour it should be open for everyone).

    Hope you all enjoyed the book so far!

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  18. Vamen - October 13, 2013 6:31 pm

    As for how the ‘edit’ program works.

    If you highlight the issue and select the type of issue from the drop-down list (spelling, grammar, etc..) then it actually shows me, the editor/author, the highlighted area when I open your particular file.

    I’ve edited all of my brother’s books so far (most of them two or three times! I’m new at this, after all…) and what I’ve found is that I don’t usually need actually typed-out descriptions of what the issue is. If it’s just highlighted, then I’ll be able to discern the nature of the problem 95% of the time – the rest of the time, if you just tag it, then I’ll get the issue.

    That said, if you feel like making a note of some kind you can *apparently* do so (I say ‘apparently’ because I thought that part of the program hadn’t been uploaded yet, but it looks like it has been) by adding text into the dialogue box where the highlighted block of text appears. *YOU* won’t be able to see your notation anywhere after you submit it, but *I* can see it in my dashboard, so don’t worry – it’s saved.

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  19. Vamen - October 13, 2013 7:00 pm

    All applicants are now approved for Part Five!

    Murphy save us…

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  20. Sandra - October 13, 2013 8:10 pm

    I have requested approval for part 5. Thank you.

    Sandra

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  21. Vamen - October 13, 2013 8:58 pm

    I just approved you, Sandra. You too, Harlequin.

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  22. Vamen - October 13, 2013 9:55 pm

    Alright, I finally got the admin finished! So now I can see the status of readers who have applied for access to a book.

    I really hope you all enjoy the conclusion of Admiral’s Revenge. I know I did 😉

    I’ll be throwing a few of my novellas up for free onto the site sometime this week. They have nothing to do with the Spineward Sectors, being in a totally different genre (fantasy) and world, but I figured some of you might enjoy some free reading as recompense for gutting it out with me on Revenge.

    I’m actually going to put up my first and second novels in my four book fantasy series (I’m writing book three right now) on the site as well, so I can get some feedback. My plan is to write five books: one prequel novel and four main-line novels, with word counts of 105k-135k each. In addition to those main novels, I’ve already written four novellas with at least as many more on the way, and they weigh in between 25k-35k words – so like a fourth of a book each.

    The novels won’t be put on Amazon, B&N, Sony, iStore, Kobo, etc.. until the series is finished (early next year, I’m guessing), but the novellas are going to be free – probably in perpetuity – as bait for people to come sign up on the site.

    So keep an eye out for the books (Book One is titled ‘Revelation,’ while Book Two is ‘Reunion’) and novellas (‘The Harbinger’ is first, ‘The Price of Enlightenment,’ Parts One and Two will be next, then ‘The Purge’ is the fourth one I’ve already completed) on the website 🙂 As fans of my brother, I’ll be granting free access to my mainline books to anyone who’s helped out in the past, and as I previously said, the novellas will likely be free in perpetuity.

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  23. Sandra - October 13, 2013 10:25 pm

    I was able to send a few tags earlier today, but for the moment, the system won’t allow me to… so here are a few more suggestions.

    Book 3
    Page 43
    Paragraph 6

    “I’m shocked, Captain,” I deadpanned as the Bugs seemed to mill around for half a
    minute before one of them started chasing after McCruise, and the other five turned (to)
    engage our still rapidly-approaching Heavy Cruiser, “are you saying that the
    Imperials deliberately deceived us about Bug intelligence, or are you trying to
    imply something about the Imperials themselves?”

    Possibly missing word “to”.

    Page 46
    Paragraph 9

    “We stack up favorably against a Medium Harvester,” he finally said with (a) faintly
    sour look.

    Possibly missing word “a”.

    Page 47
    Paragraph 8
    “What’s wrong with the grav-plates, Damage Control?” I snarled as I rounded in
    time to catch her eye (and) glare at her. “Rolling the ship takes much less power than
    running the engines at full power!”

    Possibly missing the word “and”.

    Page 57
    Paragraph 6

    “Right away, Sir,” the grizzled old retiree said giving baring his teeth.

    Perhaps the word “giving” should be removed from this sentence.

    Page 59
    Second paragraph from the bottom, first sentence

    “Captain Laurent, being a trained Tactical Officer, might,” I said, stressing the
    word and hiding a satisfied expression behind (a) cup (of) tea, “be able to do nearly as
    well.” I continued after taking a sip and then nodding a head in McCruise’s
    direction, “Then again, nothing against you Captain,” I turned to look Laurent in
    the eye and give him a nod, which he returned, “he’s never had an independent
    command, either. I know for a fact, however, that you’ve led a two warship, convoy
    protection detail as well as run an independent command on an intelligence mission
    deep within enemy territory.”

    There appears to be two words missing “a” and “of”.

    Page 63
    First paragraph, last sentence

    other world in the Confederacy, or it stood free, alone, and entirely able to pursue
    her own galactic polices…to the detriment of other worlds, empires and yes, even
    confederacies if need be. The thought of the Tracto-ans raging out of control along
    a Border gone mad made my blood run cold, and I steeled myself know that such an
    outcome had to be avoided at all costs.

    The last part of this sentence, “and I steeled myself know that such an
    outcome had to be avoided at all costs.” could use rewording.

    Page 70
    Second paragraph from the bottom, last sentence

    Out of politeness and respect for the superior sex, Hierophant
    failed (out) point out that technically he wasn’t under her command right then.

    The word “out” before the word “point” should be removed and replaced with “to”.

    Page 71
    Third paragraph

    It was a quandary,
    and he wondered if he had (he) simply been hazed back on the gun deck of the Clover
    regarding their supposedly archaic technology.

    The third “he” needs removing from this sentence.

    Page 85
    Paragraph

    Not daring to get up for fear of being shot again, I lay there waiting to see what
    happened next. My new plan to was to play up my pain and slowly reach for my
    holdout, whereupon I would shoot this mutineer in the chest until he was dead and
    then blow his face off with the last of my charge.

    Need to remove the first “to” in the following sentence:
    My new plan (to) was to play up my pain and slowly reach for my
    holdout, whereupon I would shoot this mutineer in the chest until he was dead and
    then blow his face off with the last of my charge.

    Page 103
    Paragraph 9

    “My orders are to hold onto this station as the matrimony of my Warlord’s future
    daughters – and to do so by any means necessary,” Nikomedes snapped back. “I
    had a plan for (a) receiving a proper guest, and I had a plan for a betrayal,” the
    Tracto-an decided to moderate his tone, to something more reasonable.

    Need to remove “a” from the second sentence.

    Page 110
    Paragraph 4

    “Status on Destroyer B; what’s going on over there,” McCruise demanded, pointing
    to that part of the main screen that showed the other side of the convoy, where a
    pair of Cutters were fight a Light Destroyer all on their own.

    The word fight in this sentence should be fighting.

    Page 111
    Paragraph 5

    “No,” McCruise said flatly, knowing that if they saved themselves from damage
    now, they were going certain to lose the other little Cutter.

    Perhaps should be worded: “certainly going to lose the other little Cutter”.

    Page 122
    Paragraph 4

    Realizing that at some point I’d come out of my chair, and I now stood with a
    clenched fist raised and pointed at the main screen, I suppressed (a) surge of
    humiliated embarrassment.

    The sentence above probably needs an “a”.

    Page 124
    Paragraph 2

    I looked at him disgustedly. I was used to a little more gilding of the lily in
    these sorts of situations, something like: `somewhere on(e) the order between slim and
    none, Sir,’ or perhaps `Not very good,’ or even, `we’d need Murphy’s own blessed
    hand hovering over us to succeed with such a…daring maneuver.’

    In the sentence above “one” should be “on”.

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  24. Vamen - October 13, 2013 11:12 pm

    What operating system/browser are you using, Sandra? Is anyone else having the same issue in the last couple hours?

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  25. Sandra - October 14, 2013 1:05 am

    I have Windows 8. The tag system didn’t work for me at all with IE, so I have been using Google Chrome (which works intermittently).

    Sandra

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  26. Ulrich - October 14, 2013 12:31 pm

    Tried to make a comment but got *Under construction* so I made an e-mail.

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  27. Sandra - October 15, 2013 9:30 am

    Book 5

    Page 10
    Paragraph 9

    I realized the Officer had never had the `pleasure’ of actually meeting (for)
    belated, former Science Officer who had tried to jump ship on several different
    occasions and finally managed to land a cushy job off ship over at Gambit Station
    the last time I checked.

    The word (for) above should probably be “our”.

    Page 10
    Paragraph 10

    “Answers, man!” I demanded hotly, not like this latest tactical development one
    bit.

    The word (like) above should probably be “liking”.

    Page 24
    Next to last paragraph

    I decided that I was being (a) nervous and gun-shy, and that I needed to man up.
    That thought firmly in mind, I looked around the bridge and didn’t like the hesitant
    expressions on the faces of my bridge crew, so I stood up.

    Suggest leave out the word (a)

    Page 25
    Paragraph 2

    I could see (shoulder) firm and heads pick up at my words, but knew I hadn’t quite
    sold it yet so I dug deep inside for my last shred of inspiration.

    Suggest shoulder be plural shoulders.

    Page 30
    Paragraph 7

    “This is a fight between Battleships, lad,” Spalding said with disbelief and
    rising emotion, “nothing about this is in the least (big) safe!”

    The word “big” should probably be bit.

    Page 44
    Paragraph 9

    “(Thanks) you, Sir,” the younger man said and then with trepidation added, “was
    there something you wanted to tell me Commander.”

    Thanks should be thank.

    Page 59
    Fourth paragraph from the bottom

    “We’re not done yet,” I said, baring (our) teeth and turning to Tactical. “Make
    sure to present our right flank to the Vineyard as soon as it takes over pounding us
    for the Lucky Clover; we’ve lost too many turbo-lasers on the left.”

    “Our” should be “my”.

    Page 64
    Fourth paragraph from the bottom

    “We just need to unroll this end and take it into the room to hook her up to the
    spike I sent down into one of the ship’s main data lines. Then we (the) process in
    the other five locations,” Spalding explained.

    The word “the” needs removing.

    Page 68
    Paragraph 9

    “We’re not going to bug out now,” I snarled, “this isn’t the time to start
    hedging our bets, it’s time to double down.” I’d been wishing for the chance at a
    death roll not that long ago, and now was the time to put our money where my (mouths)
    was.

    “Mouths should be singular “mouth”.

    Page 69
    Third paragraph from the bottom

    Grabbing hold of DuPont’s seat, I looked over and if I couldn’t feel the hits we
    were taking, I wouldn’t have believed my own eyes. I would have thought that every
    single Bug weapon – over (a) three hundred beam weapons in total, according to the
    counter on the corner of the main screen – lanced out from the Mother-ship, the
    majority of which hammered home on the Vineyard.

    The “a” needs removing .

    Page 71
    Paragraph 3

    I was about to lean back in my chair and mentally prepare myself for the final,
    titanic battle (that) settle everything once and for all between me and my pirate
    uncle, when my attempt at a Zen-like state of acceptance was interrupted by the
    irritating voice of my com-tech.

    “That” should probably be “and”.

    Page 74
    Paragraph 3

    “This man just sent a burst transmission to the Armor Prince,” Jean Luc declared,
    turning away from the fallen officer and retaking his chair. “I’ve had him
    monitored for some time and caught him sending our current tactical disposition to
    our enemies. Anyone who doubts my word is free to check my findings, as I’m making
    the results available on the ship’s open source documentation under the filename
    `Tremblay the Traitor’,” he finished, (sending loading) the information onto the
    ship-wide net.

    Either word “sending or loading” would work but not both.

    Page 81
    Paragraph 3

    It was time to finish this. It was time to put an end to my nemesis (one) and for
    all.

    “One” should be “once”.

    Page 88
    Paragraph 2

    For a long moment, I happily thought of every reunion Akantha and I had ever had,
    but that particular parade of happy memories really wasn’t all that (a) happy, and the
    realization that Akantha was on her way to see me during a boarding action suddenly
    shot through my body like a lighting bolt.

    The “a” needs removing.

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  28. Johntae - October 16, 2013 5:33 pm

    dang it, I had to take a trip to Texas and now I can’t get back in..

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  29. Vamen - October 16, 2013 6:46 pm

    Just greenlit all the new applications from the last twenty four hours.

    Your login is still giving you trouble, Johntae? I found a couple minor things that might have caused hangups, but nothing that seemed to be causing that kind of problem. Password recovery system is next on the list 🙁

    What’s your username? I might be able to fish out your password if it’s got a problem, or if there was some sort of error on your last long. I’d like to get you back in there as quick as possible!

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  30. The Deposed King - October 16, 2013 8:14 pm

    Hey cabe did you weather the earthquake without any troubles?

    The Deposed King

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  31. Johntae - October 16, 2013 8:15 pm

    johntae@gmail.com is the user name…

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  32. Vamen - October 16, 2013 10:20 pm

    Earthquake was fine for us 🙂 We called all of our flip friends and told them the bar collapsed, the pool split open and our pigs were killed in the ensuing landslide…actually got a few bites before we broke the truth: no damage up here whatsoever, but it was a pretty good ride!

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  33. Ulrich - October 18, 2013 12:14 am

    Caleb,

    nice to hear yours are well.

    On the side of the beta check I wanted to highlight something on the first page, but nothing possible there.

    *** “Yes, that,” I replied agreeably, still out to sea a bit. ***

    I am not sure if that ***SEA*** here should be *see* or if that would be a phrase I don’t have heard of where he wants to express that he was not really up to date.

    I had it once that I could unlay something with a yellow brackground but that was only the one day. Now it’s gone.

    Now I will hopefully send in my rest over the weekend or beginning next week per e-mail again as that is to much to put in otherwise.

    As said before possibly you can come up with a beta reader blog inside the tool or also outside where you only can post if you have allouence so there woudl be no spoiler.

    Ulrich

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  34. Vamen - October 18, 2013 1:01 am

    That you can’t use the yellow highlights any more is concerning…when I use the system it works fine. What is your browser, Ulrich? Internet Explorer, Firefox, Chrome, Opera, etc.. I think we’re having a problem with the latest Internet Explorer, but I haven’t traced the issue yet.

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  35. Ulrich - October 18, 2013 4:17 am

    I work with WIN 7 + 8 and IE + Firefox. Will take a clear look for every System in the evening and let you know.

    Ulrich

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  36. Ulrich - October 18, 2013 1:45 pm

    Caleb,

    could not check into it, but as I saw you both try to get the book on the market this month I believe it is more important to look up the rest of unlogical points I go over.

    I will make a word doc as before and send it in by mail. There are some further points I believe you should update a little.

    Ulrich

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  37. Vamen - October 18, 2013 4:32 pm

    Thanks Ulrich 🙂 Your insights are always one-of-a-kind, and they are greatly appreciated during the final editing process.

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  38. Ulrich - October 19, 2013 12:10 pm

    Caleb,

    book part 1 page 34 end of paragraph 4 *chips* instead of *ships* – have set a tag, could you see it?

    Ulrich

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  39. Ulrich - October 20, 2013 12:28 am

    book 2 page 19
    **** `I still wish you’d picked another, Captain,” he muttered. ****

    As the Captain speaks, that #commata# is to much or it should be #,Admiral# IMO but as this is grammer / spellig problem I am really not sure about this.

    Ulrich

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  40. Ulrich - October 20, 2013 3:49 am

    Book 2 Page 38

    “Mark,” Easwood … (t missing)

    Book 2 Page 40 ?
    *Sir Isaak* instead of *Sie Isaac*

    Bokk 2 Page 50 Paragraph 1

    …, and I certainly hinding. .. (seem some wording missing in context.)

    Ulrich

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  41. Vamen - October 20, 2013 9:59 pm

    I do see that you are leaving tags, Ulrich. What’s even cooler is that my compilation program now works, so I can actually see ALL of the edits you have individually made on one document.

    I’m almost giddy with excitement…having all beta reader edits available to review on one document, which I can start at one end and work through until I’m done, reduces the amount of time it takes me to edit these books by a huge amount…in all honestly it probably makes the job take 1/20th the amount of time it had before.

    Great job, everyone! I really appreciate the support, and I know my brother does too.

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  42. The Deposed King - October 20, 2013 10:28 pm

    You guys are the best. Thank you for bearing with us on this beta launch of the editing website and I hope you’re all enjoying the book.

    You’re definitely helping us to help you guys have a better product. I can’t wait to see the finished product.

    Thank you so much!

    The Deposed King

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  43. Johntae - October 21, 2013 9:14 am

    I’m sure you’re rewarding yourself by reading No Way to Start a War,, which is finally out.

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  44. The Deposed King - October 21, 2013 3:28 pm

    No Way had a lot of potential. It felt sabotaged by the alien swarm angle in the end but other than that it was a good read. Hopefully the author can continue to carry things forward.

    And yep, its nice to have a small break while I’m over here back in the USA on a vacation with the wife and kids. When I get back to the phil’s it’ll be back to the grind stone.

    The Deposed King

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  45. Ulrich - October 21, 2013 7:45 pm

    Hey, send you a last mail with teo small points which came to the back of my brain telling me, *Heh, there is something which could be change with a little bit wording,*

    And there it was, waking me up at 4 in the morning.

    Ulrich

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  46. Ulrich - October 22, 2013 12:04 am

    So, now my last mail got a second and third one with small points. My brain is really running havoc this morning. Hope you can do something about it.

    BTW if you take my main pooint to heard you should mention on AMAZON that you will redo something on this in the first four books so nobody will look astonished.

    Ulrich

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  47. Ulrich - October 22, 2013 12:09 am

    Josh,

    now some personal, take your time with the holiday, everybody needs some break from time to time. That is very important.

    Better to give the books some days for release than to push it down, giving it some real bad points on that last installments.

    Caleb,

    when you now have more time to look for the program – after the beta read is been done – please look into a way to get us to jump to a page of our choosing.

    I were reading via KINDLE and forgot my battery charger so later I had to change to the NETBOOK and had to click myself through 100 pages to get to where I were.
    I don’t have a good internet line and my wife was in there, too, so I were needing nearly 40 minutes only to click through the pages I had read beforehanded.

    Ulrich

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  48. Vamen - October 22, 2013 5:40 pm

    Ulrich: we are one the same frequency, my friend 😉 Skipping to individual pages (as well as removing the mandatory scrolling!) is among the next round of improvements to be made to the program’s interface. I’ve already built into the program a log of which page each reader last accessed, and using that data to automatically open to that particular page should be relatively simple, but I’ll just have to wait until next week to see.

    My goal is to have the major kinks ironed out of the reader program by the end of the year…and then to create a mobile app for Android, iStore, Windows Mobile, etc.. Then it’ll be essentially a similar interface to the Kindle program, with the basic layout you’re all familiar with including the editing features.

    It seems to me that most all of you guys do the bulk of your reading on a mobile device, so it stands to reason that you’d all appreciate that type of interface for beta reading. Am I off-base?

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  49. Ulrich - October 22, 2013 11:08 pm

    Hey Caleb,

    I did my work mostly on my NETBOOK, as I were writting down the staff than on WORD. Most of what I did was not looking for errors and therewith I had to read the whole book first and than work down.

    An interface where I can install something on mistakes would be nice but that is not what I am doing in most cases. But I found out that I could read better on KINDLE as I could expand the writting so the words got bigger and that was easier to do than to me. So if I could expand the area and the wordings on my NETBOOK, too, that would be really appriciated.

    The log would be great but only helpful for my part so much as sometimes I have to look for some page later on. The last parts I send to Josh yesterday were more been done out of rememberence than by re-reading that sentences so when I read the part about the second LD at the take of the T-ships again later I found that there was something a long that line – only not a very meaningful (to me) one.

    So a way to directly jumping to the pages would be the best. Could than for the beginning produce me a EXCEL list with the name and page of a part to jump there in the case I need/want to re-read especially that one.

    Lateron you could look if you could include a jumper similar to the normal behaviour of the ebook readers where yu can at the beginning hitthe chapter you want to read about..

    Ulrich

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  50. Ulrich - October 22, 2013 11:55 pm

    One more Point. You see t have a lot of knowledge on IT so f it is to dificult at the moment to include a discusion board in the BETA TOOL how would it be to build a closed BLOG where the BETA Readers than can bring up General Point.

    I must confess Iam missing people to give some report to the stuff I bring up.

    Last something on the book, the Person I were missing could be best dirtdown looig for reruits an that could be inluded muh earlier when someone is thrown out of Office much earlier to look how the recruiting goes.

    Think that would be the best to install one / two sentences hereon. Than at the end a short reminder that the Person is dirtside or that People could meet again later on with Plan B.

    Ulrich

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  51. Ulrich - November 5, 2013 3:30 pm

    Ok, had a further look at tool today as Josh were saying you are in the last check up.

    Where happy to have found out that you were including a way to jump to the side someone wanted to be and as you have shorted the single pages I believe that is the reason the number of pages got up.

    It foesn’t look as if you were including something enw therein. Is that correct?

    Ulrich

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  52. Vamen - November 5, 2013 8:37 pm

    No new ‘features’ just yet in the reader program. But a batch of updates were applied so I could work through the kinks now rather than later.

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